Monday, January 30, 2012

Why does everyone bash Bush and not the terrorists?

All you ever hear about is how we shouldn't be in Iraq. Well at least Bush had the guts to do something unlike most of the pansies who preach we shouldn't be at war. How many other places in the world are getting bombed? Saddam deserved to die. So do all the terrorists. The more Bush goes after the better. The prostesters of Bush and the government are going after the wrong people. Why not bash the Terrorists because they are the ones who are insane!?!

Why does everyone bash Bush and not the terrorists?
It is easier for some people to blame their own government because it is safe for them. They know that the government is not really out to kill them, but terrorists are a different matter. In order to properly blame terrorists they have to face the fact that people are trying to kill them for no reason other than different beliefs. Many people cannot wrap their minds around this basic concept. It stems from making the mistake that all people are basically the same. They wrongfully believe that people could not really think this way and that if we would just stop antagonizing them that they would somehow suddenly become reasonable and stop their efforts because after all, how can you kill someone who cares about you? Many more people held this view before 911 regarding terrorism. They considered terrorism just a regional issue which did not really effect the United States' security, even if the occasional embassy was bombed. It is easy to hold this opinion when you are not being attacked directly every day and this opinion grows as people find comfort in the fact that there are not any new attacks to cite. What they fail to consider is the reason why there have not been any new attacks. The simple fact is that we will be attacked again at some point and when it happens these same people will blame the powers that be for not properly protecting them.
Reply:Yes Bush had the guts to do something. However, he lied about what that something was. How can we support a man that invades a country under false pretenses? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 so how can you say invading Iraq was the right thing to do? I agree that what Saddam did was desbicable and unforgivable, but how can we take someone else's life? What does Saddam learn by being executed? To not do it again?



Remember that to be a terrorist is just to be one that incites terror. By that definition Bush is a terrorist. With the terror alerts constantly on high and constant reminders to be on the lookout Bush has the American public living in a constant state of fear, which of course proves that what he is doing must be correct and thus bolsters support for him.



No one is supporting the terrorists, but demanding accountability from elected officials is more important than "bashing" nameless people that will never hear it or care about it if they do....
Reply:Because Terrorists dont exist, its a made up word to scare you. The people who carried out 9/11 had a political agenda, and knew what and why they were doing it. To call them terrorists is to put you in this whole good vs evil battle, and thats just not the case, bush has lied on many occasions, and many of our troops (2 of my friends included) are not coming back from Iraq because of it... Over in the middle east, many groups consider us the terrorists, same propaganda, different side...
Reply:Bush gets bashed because of his astounding incompetence, the terrorist are not so incompetent.
Reply:not everyone just the commie libs
Reply:I vote for Crawler for best answer.



The reason people bash Bush rather than the terrorists is the media. The media is biased dangerously to the left.
Reply:On January 2, Keith Olbermann, in his latest Special Comment, said:



"If in your presence an individual tried to sacrifice an American serviceman or woman, would you intervene?



"Would you at least protest?



"What if he had already sacrificed 3,003 of them?



"What if he had already sacrificed 3,003 of them — and was then to announce his intention to sacrifice hundreds, maybe thousands, more?



"This is where we stand tonight with the BBC report of President Bush's "new Iraq strategy" and his impending speech to the nation, which it quotes a senior American official, will be about troop increases and "sacrifice."



"The President has delayed, dawdled, and deferred for the month since the release of the Iraq Study Group.



"He has seemingly heard out everybody… and listened to none of them.



"If the BBC is right — and we can only pray it is not — he has settled on the only solution all the true experts agree, cannot possibly work: more American personnel in Iraq, not as trainers for Iraqi troops, but as part of some flabby plan for "sacrifice."



"Sacrifice!



"More American servicemen and women will have their lives risked.



"More American servicemen and women will have their lives ended.



"More American families will have to bear the unbearable, and rationalize the unforgivable — "sacrifice" — sacrifice now, sacrifice tomorrow, sacrifice forever.



"And more Americans — more even than the two-thirds who already believe we need fewer troops in Iraq, not more — will have to conclude the President does not have any idea what he's doing - and that other Americans will have to die for that reason.



"It must now be branded as propaganda — for even the President cannot truly feel that very many people still believe him to be competent in this area, let alone "the decider."



"But from our impeccable reporter at the Pentagon, Jim Miklaszewski, tonight comes confirmation of something called "surge and accelerate" — as many as 20-thousand additional troops — for "political purposes"…



"This, in line with what we had previously heard, that this will be proclaimed a short-term measure, for the stated purpose of increasing security in and around Baghdad, and giving an Iraqi government a chance to establish some kind of order.



"This is palpable nonsense, Mr. Bush.



"If this is your intention — if the centerpiece of your announcement next week will be "sacrifice" — sacrifice your intention, not more American lives!



"As Senator Biden has pointed out, the new troops might improve the ratio our forces, face relative to those living in Baghdad (friend and foe), from 200 to 1, to just 100 to 1.



"Sacrifice?"



"No.



"A drop in the bucket.



"The additional men and women you have sentenced to go there, sir, will serve only as targets.



"They will not be there "short-term," Mr. Bush; for many it will mean a year or more in death's shadow.



"This is not temporary, Mr. Bush.



"For the Americans who will die because of you… it will be as permanent as it gets.



"The various rationales for what Mr. Bush will reportedly re-christen "sacrifice," constitute a very thin gruel, indeed.



"The former Labor Secretary, Robert Reich, says Senator McCain told him that the "surge" would help the "morale" of the troops already in Iraq.



"If Mr. McCain truly said that, and truly believes it, he has either forgotten completely his own experience in Vietnam… or he is unaware of the recent Military Times poll indicating only 38 percent of our active military want to see more troops sent… or Mr. McCain has departed from reality.



"Then there is the argument that to take any steps towards reducing troop numbers would show weakness to the enemy in Iraq, or to the terrorists around the world.



"This simplistic logic ignores the inescapable fact that we have indeed already showed weakness to the enemy, and to the terrorists.



"We have shown them that we will let our own people be killed, for no good reason.



"We have now shown them that we will continue to do so.



"We have shown them our stupidity.



"Mr. Bush, your judgment about Iraq — and now about "sacrifice" — is at variance with your people's, to the point of delusion.



"Your most respected generals see no value in a "surge" — they could not possibly see it in this madness of "sacrifice."



"The Iraq Study Group told you it would be a mistake.



"Perhaps dozens more have told you it would be a mistake.



"And you threw their wisdom back, until you finally heard what you wanted to hear, like some child drawing straws and then saying "best two out of three… best three out of five… Hundredth one counts."



"Your citizens, the people for whom you work, have told you they do not want this, and more over, they do not want you to do this.



"Yet once again, sir, you have ignored all of us.



"Mr. Bush, you do not own this country!



"To those Republicans who have not broken free from the slavery of partisanship — those bonded still, to this President and this Administration — and now bonded to this "sacrifice" — proceed at your own peril.



"John McCain may still hear the applause of small crowds — he has somehow inured himself to the hypocrisy, and the tragedy, of a man who considers himself the ultimate realist, courting the votes of those who support the government telling visitors to the Grand Canyon that it was caused by the Great Flood.



"That Mr. McCain is selling himself off to the irrational Right, parcel by parcel, like some great landowner facing bankruptcy, seems to be obvious to everybody but himself.



"Or, maybe it is obvious to him — and he simply no longer cares.



"But to the rest of you in the Republican Party.



"We need you to speak up, right now, in defense of your country's most precious assets — the lives of its citizens who are in harm's way.



"If you do not, you are not serving this nation's interests — nor your own.



"Last November should have told you this.



"The opening of the new Congress tomorrow and Thursday, should tell you this.



"Next time, those missing Republicans, will be you.



"And to the Democrats now yoked to the helm of this sinking ship, you proceed at your own peril, as well.



"President Bush may not be very good at reality, but he and Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rove are still gifted at letting American troops be killed, and then turning their deaths to their own political advantage.



"The equation is simple. This country does not want more troops in Iraq.



"It wants fewer.



"Go and make it happen, or go and look for other work.



"Yet you Democrats must assume that even if you take the most obvious of courses, and cut off funding for the war… Mr. Bush will ignore you as long as possible, or will find the money elsewhere, or will spend the money meant to protect the troops, and re-purpose it to keep as many troops there as long as he can keep them there.



"Because that's what this is all about, is it not, Mr. Bush?



"That is what this "sacrifice" has been for.



"To continue this senseless, endless war.



"You have dressed it up in the clothing, first of a hunt for weapons of mass destruction, then of liberation… then of regional imperative… then of oil prices… and now in these new terms of "sacrifice" — it's like a damned game of Colorforms, isn't it, sir?



"This senseless, endless war.



"But it has not been senseless in two ways.



"It has succeeded, Mr. Bush, in enabling you to deaden the collective mind of this country to the pointlessness of endless war, against the wrong people, in the wrong place, at the wrong time.



"It has gotten many of us, used to the idea — the virtual "white noise" — of conflict far away, of the deaths of young Americans, of vague "sacrifice" for some fluid cause, too complicated to be interpreted except in terms of the very important sounding, but ultimately meaningless phrase, "the war on terror."



"And the war's second accomplishment — your second accomplishment, sir - is to have taken money out of the pockets of every American, even out of the pockets of the dead soldiers on the battlefield, and their families, and to have given that money to the war profiteers.



"Because if you sell the Army a thousand Humvees, you can't sell them any more, until the first thousand have been destroyed.



"The service men and women are ancillary to the equation.



"This is about the planned obsolescence of ordnance, isn't it, Mr. Bush? And the building of detention centers? And the design of a 125-million dollar courtroom complex at Gitmo complete with restaurants.



"At least the war profiteers have made their money, sir.



"And we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain.



"You have insisted, Mr. Bush, that we must not lose in Iraq, that if we don't fight them there we will fight them here — as if the corollary were somehow true, that if by fighting them there we will not have to fight them here.



"And yet you have re-made our country, and not re-made it for the better, on the premise that we need to be ready to "fight them here," anyway, and always.



"In point of fact even if the Civil War in Iraq somehow ended tomorrow, and the risk to Americans there ended with it, we would have already suffered a defeat — not fatal, not world-changing, not, but for the lives lost, of enduring consequence.



"But this country has already lost in Iraq, sir.



"Your policy in Iraq has already had its crushing impact on our safety here.



"You have already fomented new terrorism and new terrorists.



"You have already stoked paranoia.



"You have already pitted Americans, one against the other.



"We… will have to live with it.



"We… will have to live with what — of the fabric of our nation — you have already "sacrificed."



"The only object still admissible in this debate, is the quickest and safest exit for our people there.



"But you — and soon, Mr. Bush, it will be you and you alone – still insist otherwise.



"And our sons and daughters and fathers and mothers will be sacrificed there tonight, Sir, so that you can say you did not "lose in Iraq."



"Our policy in Iraq has been criticized for being indescribable, for being inscrutable, for being ineffable.



"But it is all too easily understood now.



"First, we sent Americans to their deaths for your lie, Mr. Bush.



"Now we are sending them to their deaths for your ego.



"If what is reported is true — if your decision is made and the "sacrifice" is ordered — take a page instead from the man at whose funeral you so eloquently spoke this morning — Gerald Ford: Put pragmatism and the healing of a nation, ahead of some kind of misguided vision.



"Atone.



"Sacrifice, Mr. Bush?



"No, sir, this is not "sacrifice." This has now become "human sacrifice."



"And it must stop.



"And you can stop it.



"Next week, make us all look wrong.



"Our meaningless sacrifice in Iraq must stop.



"And you must stop it."





I could not have said it better myself. So you see, we're not bashing Bush as a man, or even as a President, although it is admittedly amusing when he is made fun of for mispronunciation of words like "nukular". We're bashing him for continuing a war whose cause has ceased to be just and honorable for the majority of citizens in this country. That's why Vietnam is being invoked.
Reply:Please read this twice...

Osama Bin Laden and Al Quada sent video tapes around the world and proclaimed responsibility for the 9/11 attacks!



Back in the 90's when Iraq invaded Kuwait he did so with the acknowledement of the United States officials that they would not get involved. It wasn't until Saudi Arabia {The Bin Laden family---Bush family business partners} asked the United States to intervene that we finally took military action in Desert Storm.



The Bush family---OIL The Bin Laden family---OIL--- OPEC---KB%26amp;R{HALLIBURTON} Vice-President Cheney The Carlyle Group!!!!!! Seriously can anyone really not see the rabbit behind the magicians back.

Every person involved with the companies that I have mentioned in the previous paragraph stand to gain a HUGE financial windfall by the rebuilding and rechanneling of Iraq's natural resources!



Every American wants the perpetrators of 9/11 brought to justice. Fortunately NOW even the Rep. party members who are tired of "staying the course" with an administration that got caught lining their pockets are calling for the madness to stop!!



Not wanting to wage war doesn't make you a pansy. It makes you accountable to the human race.
Reply:Because people still believe that the media tells the truth, the Democratic Party is for the poor and working people, that Bush is in the oil companies pockets, that Karl Rove is evil and so on. Finding out the truth is hard work, it requires you to actually do something. It's much easier to bash Bush, because it makes you sound as if you were witty without having to go through all the bother of actually reading a book or thinking before you speak,or something...besides, the terrorist have darker skin than white people...it would be racist to bash them, even if they are fascists and maniacs.
Reply:Saddam was not a terrorist for the US; hence bush bashing
Reply:because they cant see the terrorists but they see bush everyday, so naturally they are going to bash him
Reply:In my mind Bush IS a terrorist. This inept and delusional con artist misled us into a bogus war - and I am still not clear why we invaded and occupied in the first place. Even Gerald Ford stated it was not in our national interest to do so.

Thank god his term will expire in less than 2 years with a Democratic House and Senate. Can it be Bush is being held accountable for his failed policies in a failed war? I think you will find yourself in an ever shrinking minority.
Reply:Bush could have finished his job in Irak a LONG time ago, but he wants the war to go on. it brings profit to the U.S. The terrorists are crazy, i will not dispute that, but they have been provoked. man must find peaceful ways of combating idiocy, rather than using the stick...please, for God sake, stop thinking with your instincts people, we have evolved!!!!
Reply:Everyone is against terrorist. They bash Bush because he has mishandled almost everything.
Reply:Because, that's how kids deal with someone they disagree with. They fling insults and half truths. But...I digress.

Just one small correction to Planksheer's statement about Ford. He never said it was not in our national interest, he said it was a mistake to justify the war on the basis of WMD's.
Reply:Many people outside the USA consider Bush to be a terrorist. You like bashing terrorists? Ultimately, its you (the consumer) who sponsors terrorism by paying higher fuel prices to people who directly support and promote terrorism. So perhaps you should reconsider who actually is insane.
Reply:you have probably posed one of the best questions yet! I think we should be in Iraq but I think we should be dropping our own time-tested brand of terrorism. (Hiroshima stopped the war pretty quickly).
Reply:Its sickening I know but the sad truth is it's all politics and the Democrats do not have never and are unlikely to in the future think of the American people or their security before they think of themselves and their power. The media is becoming a joke in that they are sooooo skewed towards the liberal and Democrat agenda that they are blind to what is really happening and dont (or wont) report anything that portrays the republican party and especially G W B in a positive light. For example they were all a twitter about N. Polosi having a street named after her and ignored the real story out there did you know that we fought and killed Iranian special forces in Iraq who were attacking us and Iraqi civilians? No of course you didnt but it is true look it up. There is an old axiom used by the members of the media that says good news does not sell I think it would be more appropriate now to say good news does not sell some peoples agenda.
Reply:I bash terrorists all the time. So your statement is a lie.
Reply:It's becoming blatantly obvious that some people don't want President Bush to get credit for the good thinks that the U.S. has done under his leadership. They're scared %26amp; their rhettoric sounds like a broken record. Let them keep talking, the American people will see through all of the liberal B.S.
Reply:Fine give me the address of the terrorists and I'll bash them.
Reply:What we are protesting is the fact that Saddam was a neutered nothing after we were done with him the first time around. He was not involved in the terrorist attacks, as Bush finally admitted:



"No, we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th," Bush said.



Saddam was a freak and a genocidal killer. If we are willing to do nothing when Kabame of Rwanda kills 800,000 Tutsies, and then spend BILLIONS of dollars because we can prove that Saddam killed 147 Kurds in 1987 with the weapons and money that WE gave him, then there is something wrong with the system
Reply:Why do you think everyone hates Bush?

Why do you think no one hates terrorists?

Why do you think invading Iraq has been bad for the terrorist movements?

Why do you think bombs in other countries validates the U.S. military action in Iraq?

Who doesn't deserve to die? Why does it happen to all of us?



Are you drunk?
Reply:its freedom of speech. bush is an easy sitting duck that anyone can safely say bad stuff about.

its a sign that the system is working that we can continue to say bad stuff about our leader. The day we cant is the day we KNOW that we are truely in trouble.



people like to talk about those clowns you give faux respect to by terming as 'terrorist'

every time the tv guy calls them 'terrorist' it gives you a rush of spicy fear -- and boosts up the ego of these jerks.



You guys should start calling them what they are: moronic dumb clowns who cant get laid and whack people because they are too stupid to go and buy pussy or jerk off. Then these dumbshit towelhead wanna be mullah, but so not muslim sluts can be defeated because every time you scare your grandma with the 'threat' that a terrorist is outside her door and she stays inside and buys a gun and shoots her son who came home drunk late at night... then THEY win. and we all lose.



So PLEASE dont play up the 'terrorist' term anymore. its just creating your own fear and makes normal people stupider.



terrorist= poopy panted dirty beard clowns who have no life skills and dont want to cook for a living, just steal.



how often do you run into so called 'terrorists' in real life?



Thats right. YOU DONT. you only run into wanna-bes and cowards. so stop worrying about them and in the highly unlikely event you do run into some desparate jerk without balls with a gun and a knife then bring him down and dont worry if he shoots you cuz he obviously going to kill you anyways. If you are taking a person with a gun and knife seriously- talk to the doofus- get close- hit him until he drops it grab it and either kill him or lock the poor starving monkey in the zoo we call jail and hope he finds love.



= problem solved.



make his life short for being stupid enough to pull out weapons. hey our lives are short enough anyways.


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