Do RVs really just tick you off?

1. theyre a huge waste or resources. oil is only expected to be plentiful enough to be widely used as an energy source for another 50-75 years. Yet people feel they have the right to drive those huge things that probably get 5 miles a gallon across the country. thanks for leaving some resources for others after you, *** holes



2. Recreational vehicles are a hazard on the road. Half the people cant drive them, theyre always crossing over their lines, and a lot of them drive 10 under the speed limit.



3. I recently came back from Colorado where all the RV folk think theyre on an "adventure." you should have that attitude unless you actually went back packing through the mountains or something. wow, youre the next louis and clark. you sit in your glorified trailer at the base of a mountain with the AC cranked watching TV on a premium satelite package eating cupcakes. thats not being an adventurer, its being a lame self-indulgent pansy.



anyway, thats my rant. who else feels the same

Do RVs really just tick you off?
I agree completely.



To the folks flaming you, I say: "Hey, he didn't say RV's should be banned, just that they p*ss him off. " A lot of us who make the effort to enjoy the wilderness via our own locomotion like I do (backpacking, canoeing, kayaking, bicycling, cross country skiing) do have a right to be impatient and furstrated with people who clog the roads and hog the campgrounds with their bloated gas-burning toys, including jetskis, snowmobile and off-road vehicles as well as RV's. Trying to sleep in a tent while you are surrounded by RV idiots with generators belching fumes and boom boxes blaring is no treat. I've lost track of the times I've ended up picking up (and packing out on my back) trash left by "campers" who made it into the woods in their RV's or snowmobiles, too. Slobs.



And I'm sorry, but the "older folks" line doesn't cut it with me. I'm in my 50's and have done everything from mountaineering to white water rafting with outdoorsmen and women well into their 60's and 70's. If people would stay in shape instead of sitting in front of the tube stuffing their faces all year they wouldn't need the aid of a mechanical device to get themselves into the wild once a year. Unless you are truly physically handicapped there is no excuse but laziness for these things.



Plus, a large proportion of the environmental damage and expense in maintaining the State and National Parks is caused by people using RV's. Remember that horrible costly wildfire in the Northern Plains a few years ago that was started by a clueless couple who dragged their car with a flat tire for over 100 miles behind their giant RV totally oblivious to the fact that it was throwing sparks into the grassland?



And yeah, you're no "adventurer" if you're not proceeding under your own power, despite what the idiotic jeep ads would have you believe. It may be "politically incorrect" to say so, but my feeling is that if you have to bring your freaking house with you to "enjoy the wilderness", do the rest of us a favor and stay home and watch nature shows on TV.



Yeah, sure, it's your "right" to own and use your giant RV but it's also our right to think you're an environmentally irresponsible, selfish, lazy jerk for doing so.
Reply:Can you comprehend the concept that other cultures are not failed attempts to be YOUR culture? RVing isn't failed attempt to be a backpaker, it's an activity in it's own right with it's own standards and norms. If these people wanted to go backpacking or wilderness camping, then that is what they'd be choosing to do. Obviously they choose to RV instead. With the fuel waste of air travel, car travel, dishwashers, excessive packaging, industrial farming, etc, etc, etc, why single out RVers?



Perhaps you'd like to give us a detailed itinerary of your own life so that we criticize your food choices or the way you use fuel, electricity, paper, water. You do soap up out of a basin and run the shower ONLY for the 10 second rinse off, don't you? Cold water, of course.



Before you criticize other people for the speck of sawdust in their eye, let us other people give your own eyes a good inspection -- there just might be a few 2x4s distorting your own vision.
Reply:Probably all the present RV crowd felt that way when they were young too.
Reply:Whoa!!! I think someone must have peed in your Wheaties this morning!!



I, too , am a backpacker and tent camper BUT folks who own and use an RV have the right to do so. True, they use more fuel than a small economy car but anyone who can afford one has the right to do so. This is America!



As far as people in RV's being slobs and irritating campers, I must disagree with that statement. I have found that most of the "problem" campers are tent campers, not Rvers.



Why? As a whole, RVers tend to be your more mature (in age) camper because that demographic tends to have the disposable income to purchase them. The more mature person tends not to be the rowdy party goers at campgrounds, the younger crowd is normally to blame.



Not being an adventurer because they do not travel through the wilderness under their own locomotion is a pile of bull.....................LIFE is an adventure anyway you enjoy it!
Reply:I can see where you're coming from, but I kind of like them (no, I don't own one). It is still an adventure to see all of the beautiful places this country has to offer, no matter what your mode of transportation.



As for driving slow - most highways have a lower speed limits for big trucks/rvs.
Reply:You can be an adventurer without having to climb a mountain. An adventure is what you want it to be. I can go to the mall and make it an adventure. Don't be so mad bro...go climb a tree and hump a branch or something.
Reply:I agree that they have a major carbon footprint and that better means of transportation can be found. However, many RV's can be rigged to use biodiesel or methanol. So saying they use oil is just an excuse to rant.



Additionally, RVs make excellent base-camp operation centers for people who like "REAL ADVENTURE". I'm sorry if you disagree, but after humping it up a backcountry ski and then bombing down it, it's kind of nice to roll into the RV and chill before driving to the next day's off-piste site. I've done the "sleep in a tent in a closed-for-the-season Forest Service campground and hope you don't freeze or get busted" thing a few times. Sorry...I'll take a warm RV and a place to dry my ski boots and work on my planks any day over freezing my stones off.



I do wish that they would be restricted to certain areas of National Parks. Actually, I wish all private vehicles would be limited to parking lots and campground areas and anyone who could not travel through a park on their own power would be forced to take a bus. It would cut down on emissions, noise, accidents, etc. in the Parks.



Speed LIMIT!!! It's a maximum! Only Interstates have minimum speeds...so if you get behind an RV on the Interstate, pass it! How much extra gas do you burn by driving OVER the speed limit? Lay off the crystal meth and enjoy the ride. Smoke some grass, you won't care about how slow anyone is going.



Geeze! If you don't like RVs...don't buy one. It's a free country.
Reply:I totally agree with you man!! True you can make anything an adventure but that doesnt mean it is a REAL ADVENTURE!! i hike, backpack, camp, mountain climb, all that shizz nizz and thats what ide call an adventure, getting out there and getting involved. I mean i can carry everything i need on my back no sweat! i dont need a whole ficken truck to go and have an adventure or camping or somthing! RV's are usually for those lazy ***'s who cant be botherd to do it the real way cause they mgiht think its to much hassle or somthing. as well as if you have to get one of them, stop buying all those gas guzzlers!! get a diesel or somthing!! you no it also is alot cheaper to go backpacking aswell, youll save a lot of money doing it that way and will have alot more fun to.